Prog rock band Polyphia have been making waves in recent months, as their brand of instrumental music turns heads and raises eyebrows — especially thanks to the guitar work. And while guitar still remains a major part of today’s music world and its use spans multiple genres, 29-year-old guitarist Tim Henson said its ubiquity isn’t because people necessarily *like *the guitar.

While speaking with Total Guitar (via Guitar.com), Henson said guitarists aren’t necessarily the rock gods and heroes that they used to be. In fact, he thinks today’s younger audience couldn’t be bothered.

And while he thinks guitar is a “means to an end” and most people don’t “give a shit” about guitar players, that didn’t stop them from collaborating with guitar legend Steve Vai. Henson reflected on that moment and how they destroyed his monitors.

As an artist that aims to bring prog rock in line with more contemporary music elements, maybe he knows a thing or two about Gen-Z music listeners. I mean, I know absolutely jack shit about that segment of the audience aside from their apparent love of TikTok memes and innate ability to take down celebrities.