There are things in this world that we all simply know to be true. The sky is blue, grass is green and Korn are a nü metal band. The latter fact, however, used to bother Korn frontman Jonathan Davis, as he explained in a new interview with Metal Hammer.

Apparently, around the time that Korn were really taking off in the early 2000s, Davis noticed a lot of other bands also using the nü metal tag. His response?

He went on to explain that he’s more relaxed about it now but likened his feelings to how people don’t refer to Metallica as “some thrash band.”

I don’t know about you guys, but I totally call Metallica a thrash band. In fact, you could argue that Metallica are *the *thrash band. Davis also discussed the band’s desire to always have final say on the music and presentation of the band and music.